diff --git a/lib/keystone b/lib/keystone
index fd1d1d4..a8de3ef 100644
--- a/lib/keystone
+++ b/lib/keystone
@@ -445,14 +445,16 @@
 #
 # create_service_user <name> [role]
 #
-# The role defaults to the service role. It is allowed to be provided as optional as historically
+# We always add the service role, other roles are also allowed to be added as historically
 # a lot of projects have configured themselves with the admin or other role here if they are
 # using this user for other purposes beyond simply auth_token middleware.
 function create_service_user {
-    local role=${2:-service}
-
     get_or_create_user "$1" "$SERVICE_PASSWORD" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME"
-    get_or_add_user_project_role "$role" "$1" "$SERVICE_PROJECT_NAME" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME"
+    get_or_add_user_project_role service "$1" "$SERVICE_PROJECT_NAME" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME"
+
+    if [[ -n "$2" ]]; then
+        get_or_add_user_project_role "$2" "$1" "$SERVICE_PROJECT_NAME" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME" "$SERVICE_DOMAIN_NAME"
+    fi
 }
 
 # Configure the service to use the auth token middleware.
diff --git a/lib/placement b/lib/placement
index 165c670..ff630e2 100644
--- a/lib/placement
+++ b/lib/placement
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
 # Test if any placement services are enabled
 # is_placement_enabled
 function is_placement_enabled {
-    [[ ,${ENABLED_SERVICES} =~ ,"placement-" ]] && return 0
+    [[ ,${ENABLED_SERVICES} =~ ,"placement-api" ]] && return 0
     return 1
 }
 
@@ -101,12 +101,7 @@
     " -i $placement_api_apache_conf
 }
 
-# configure_placement() - Set config files, create data dirs, etc
-function configure_placement {
-    if [ "$PLACEMENT_DB_ENABLED" != False ]; then
-        iniset $PLACEMENT_CONF placement_database connection `database_connection_url placement`
-    fi
-
+function configure_placement_nova_compute {
     iniset $NOVA_CONF placement auth_type "password"
     iniset $NOVA_CONF placement auth_url "$KEYSTONE_SERVICE_PROTOCOL://$KEYSTONE_SERVICE_HOST:$KEYSTONE_AUTH_PORT/v3"
     iniset $NOVA_CONF placement username placement
@@ -121,7 +116,13 @@
     # established by the nova api. This avoids, for the time, being,
     # creating redundant configuration items that are just used for
     # testing.
+}
 
+# configure_placement() - Set config files, create data dirs, etc
+function configure_placement {
+    if [ "$PLACEMENT_DB_ENABLED" != False ]; then
+        iniset $PLACEMENT_CONF placement_database connection `database_connection_url placement`
+    fi
     _config_placement_apache_wsgi
 }
 
diff --git a/stack.sh b/stack.sh
index f4bac30..1817f61 100755
--- a/stack.sh
+++ b/stack.sh
@@ -869,6 +869,16 @@
     configure_placement
 fi
 
+# create a placement-client fake service to know we need to configure
+# placement connectivity. We configure the placement service for nova
+# if placement-api or placement-client is active, and n-cpu on the
+# same box.
+if is_service_enabled placement placement-client; then
+    if is_service_enabled n-cpu; then
+        configure_placement_nova_compute
+    fi
+fi
+
 if is_service_enabled horizon; then
     # django openstack_auth
     install_django_openstack_auth